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First Benchmarks for MacBook Pro With New Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Surface
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Impressive. Let’s wait to see the internal temps in these wonder machines. No need to fry eggs on your MBP.
Yeah, that's really frustrating. I've got so used to have my coffee kept warm when I put it on top of my MBP in clamshell mode.
Left and right, Apple loses functionality.
RTX features are so infantile on PC, no comcern at all for gamers in general for quite some time.
That is interesting as really this should be performing on 1050Ti level by all rights (still impressive assuming it's a 35W TDP as with the 555X and 560X - it would then be undercutting the TDP of the Nvidia chip by half - the 1050Ti uses up to 70W!). I'd wait for more reviews to rule out this being a fluke, though.
RTX was never meant to be a concern, rather something to look forward to
I watched this
video on youtube and I have to say what impressed me the most were the reduced throttling and temps. Far more important than just an increase in performance.
This is my situation. I have an aging Macbook pro 15 from late 2013. It has some screen problems and a dying battery. I also have an Alienware 15 with the 1070. When apple released the current redesign of the Macbook pro, I felt they were too expensive and not powerful enough. But here's the thing, I really don't like windows. I've been trying to use the Alienware as my main machine and always end up using my old Mac instead, at least for all the tasks it can still handle, even though the screen goes pink sometimes. Windows is always forcing updates on me and honestly the GUI feels slower on the Alienware than my 5 year old Macbook pro. So, here's the deal. I don't think the Vega 20 is going to be at the 1070 level, but if it were at the 1060 level, I could probably replace the Alienware for video editing and occasional gaming.
Who really games on a Mac? If your spending this kind of money and trying to game on your Mac your just silly. You could spend half this money in a windows machine and get way better performance for gaming so gaming really is out of the question. As for render times, heat, and battery, the Vega 20 is consuming much less power thus less heat and less Battery drain thanks to the new architecture and High bandwidth memory. I would prefer to spend a few extra hundred dollars to have that internally instead of carrying around my eGPU everywhere. The performance difference comparred to the pain of lugging it around it worth the trade off in my opinion.
There are lots of people like myself who don't buy a mac for gaming and are not gamers. But sometimes on a Sunday we like to throw down some Warhammer or Starcraft. It's nice to have that as a possibility. We could build or buy a whole other computer for our Sunday gaming, but maybe it's not worth that much to us.
I bought the one that came out earlier this year maxed out (on day one of launch). Is there anything I can say or do to get apple to change it to the one with Vega 20 Pro (obviously I’d be happy to pay the price difference). I’m pretty pissed that I could’ve paid a little more and gotten a way better graphics card.
Good Luck with that. Apple honestly is pretty good about returns even way after the 14 day mark (normally it’s 14 days) and I have seen people return their Mac 45 Days after purchase pending your issue/complaint. But if you bought yours in the summer? I doubt apple will work with you on this one.
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I understand your stance trust me I was in your camp back in 2012 when I made the move to the rMBP. The difference here is though if you want to achieve that then just stick with the 560X and put that money into an eGPU and case for roughly the same amount of money then it will satisfy both needs.
That depends on what you prioritize. thin and light or performance? a touchbar or great keyboard? MacOS or other?
I just priced out a few laptops for myself for work yesterday as I'm going to need a pro level upgrade
Lenovo P52 vs MacBook Pro 15"
CPU: both with i7-8850
RAM: 32GB
GPU: NVidia Quadro P1000 vs Vega20
HDD: 512GB NVME storage
Display: 4K IPS Touch vs Apple Retina
CAD$
Lenovo: $3,441
MacBook Pro: 4,599
the Lenovo is not nearly as thin + Light. But has room for upgradable RAM and a 2nd 2.5" drive.
What I don't have is pure benchmarks to compare. But for $1200ish difference, you get the touchbar instead of Function keys and Apple's priority on thin and light. So thats going to be up to you if you believe it's a worthy cost for those.
I can get an EGPU and case for 350? I don't think so. Now, maybe I could go with the low end 15" Macbook Pro and EGPU. Maybe that makes sense. But then I'm stuck with a 256GB internal SSD. Apple's pricing always makes it impossible to make a decision. Nothing seems like a good deal. HAHA! I guess that's Apple for you.
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I think this is 1050Ti level performance. That's not amazing but impressive given the form factor.
I still wish Apple would just make these notebooks a little thicker so they could use more powerful parts.
I got a EGPU (Sonnet Breakaway Box for $200) and a used RX 480 for $80...so yea you can get a eGPU setup for under $300. I do have a base model 2017 15" Macbook with 256 SSD, but I have an external SSD hooked up to my USB-C dock and it works perfect. I have 256 GB with me all the time, with 40 GB allocated to bootcamp. I plug into my dock at home and have 500 GB SSD, dual monitors, keyboard, and high end graphics. Able to play BF1 on ultra without any issues. I'm loving this setup.
I'd like to see real benchmarks compared to other GPUs. Giving that screenshot alone doesn't say a lot, neither is that real world. At that point, it can be determined if the upgrades are value for money or not.
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It's not natural inflation, it's Apple jacking up prices. Add feature X and make that an excuse to hike up prices by 40%.
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It's not natural inflation, it's Apple jacking up prices. Add feature X and make that an excuse to hike up prices by 40%.
It must of got left behind three months ago when Apple released new Macbook Pro's to video editers saying "this is the best machine ever for you" while knowing full well they were going to release a better machine after they got those suckers, who couldn't wait any more, money.
Again, they can update regularly and get gripes at for leaving customers with legacy products. Or, they can not make changes and get griped at for not updating.
I swear these are Windows/PC fanbois who just complain about anything Apple does.
It’s a nice update. I want one.
I swear these are Windows/PC fanbois who just complain about anything Apple does.
It’s a nice update. I want one.